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Akron, Cleveland and New York · 1939–1948

Pigeons

AA called its newcomers pigeons, and for years a woman who came in had hardly any sober women to sponsor her.

“Why not? What difference does it make? They’re just as drunk as the men are.”

Elgie R., a member’s wife in Akron, on the women who came to AA · recalled in Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers, 1980

Somebody’s wife

In Akron a newcomer was a “pigeon,” a word the old-timers thought Dr. Bob had coined. Women pigeons were rare, and Dr. Bob wasn’t sure the program would work for them. He always agreed to talk to the women who came his way. Then, as a rule, he “turned them over to Anne and other wives who were willing to work with them.”

Not many wives were. Most of them backed away from a woman who came in alone, Elgie R. remembered, and the men got leery of her. “Nobody wanted to handle it.” Elgie, the young wife of a member, was willing.

The idea took hold that men should help men and women help women. It came first, Elgie said, “as a means of A.A. self-preservation, before experience proved it wise for the newcomers’ sake.” The trouble was that there were hardly any sober women to do it. “So the wives continued to do the job.”

Cleveland was no easier. The first woman Warren C. remembered there was thrown out by the wives: “She was so bad, they wouldn’t allow her in their homes.” She got sober later, Clarence S. recalled, but she stayed away from AA.

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Six women, 1939–1948

Who took the call

Six women who came to AA while there were still few women in it, and who answered when they did.

From Akron and Cleveland members’ recollections in Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers (1980), and from Marty M.’s biography by Sally and David R. Brown (2001).

Akron · spring 1939

Ruth T., from Toledo

Her father and a lawyer got in touch with the Akron group. Dr. Bob asked Elgie R., married a year, to take her into her little house. When Ruth went home, a court wanted someone responsible in the house with her children, so Elgie went too, for a week.

A wife took her in

Elgie R.

New York · April 1939

Marty M.

There were almost no other women in AA near her. Bill W. became her sponsor, and later heard her Fifth Step. In her first year she tried to help at least a hundred women, and nearly always failed.

A man sponsored her

Women aren’t alcoholics, in People Like You

Her biographers, 2001

Akron · May 1941

Ethel M.

She and her husband, Rollo, came in together, and John and Elgie R. made the call. A couple was easier. “Ethel and Rollo worked as a team, and that was safer,” Elgie said. “But every woman who came in alone was like a warning signal to all the wives.”

Later, sponsor to many women

Elgie R.; Emma K.

Cleveland · May 1941

Vi S.

She came in with her husband, Freddie, and was afraid of the wives: “there was no other woman I knew of in A.A.” Their idea, she felt, was “that if it helped Freddie, they would let me in.” Then, she said, “We started a woman’s group.”

A women’s group

Vi S.

New York · 1948

Ruth O.

She volunteered at Towns Hospital, and a woman sponsor was hard to find. For her second anniversary she asked Marty to speak, the only woman then, Ruth felt, who would say she was an alcoholic. Marty was “sort of on a different plane from most women in AA—like a goddess to the rest of us.”

Still hard to find

Ruth O., in Marty’s biography

So few women

Until there were sober women to do it, women who came to AA were sponsored by wives, by couples and by men. Then the first women to stay sober, Marty M. and Ethel M. among them, began sponsoring the women who came after them.

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Where the word “pigeon” came from; two women sponsored together; and women sponsored by men.

Who coined it?

The word “pigeon,” for a newcomer or a prospect, was probably coined by Dr. Bob himself, Akron’s old-timers thought. “He used that word,” said his son, Smitty. One member remembered him announcing at a meeting, “There’s a pigeon in Room so-and-so who needs some attention.” He might also call a patient “a cookie.”

Members kept after their pigeons by telephone. John S., who came in in January 1940, thought his friend Wade was nuts: Wade would call, ask how John was, ask after his pigeon, and hang up. “But he was just keeping in touch.”

The word traveled. Akron’s history calls Jack D., who carried the message to Youngstown in 1939, one of Bill W.’s “New York pigeons,” and Marty’s biographers call her Bill’s pigeon too.

Littermates

Two newcomers with the same sponsor are what AA sometimes calls littermates. Marty’s were Felicia G. and Priscilla P., and they stayed friends for life.

In her first month Felicia couldn’t stop drinking, and Priscilla, “quite new in AA herself,” decided she was a stubborn case. Another woman in AA had just gone on a terrible bender. Priscilla told Felicia to take her to High Watch Farm, in Connecticut, and sober her up.

It was the dead of winter, and the farm had no central heating. The two of them slept in their ski clothes and fur coats. “I completely forgot myself,” Felicia wrote, “in trying vainly to help Anne, whose misery I understood.”

Across the line

Marty’s biographers, writing in 2001, describe the custom of their own day: a sponsor is “nearly always someone of the same gender.” In Marty’s early years, they add, a woman often had no sober woman to turn to and had to choose a man. “Grandfatherly older men were frequently chosen or might volunteer themselves,” they write, since they were thought safe.

As time went on, Marty often sponsored men.

AA’s pamphlet today advises men to sponsor men and women to sponsor women, and then allows for an exception: “Some gay men and lesbians feel an opposite-sex sponsor is more appropriate for similar reasons.”

Sources
  • Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers. AA World Services, 1980. Chapter XI (the word “pigeon,” Smitty, John S. and Wade), chapter XIII (Jack D.), chapter XVIII, “The wives’ role in early A.A.,” and chapter XIX, “Minorities within A.A. gain acceptance” (Elgie R., Ruth T., Warren C., Ethel M., Emma K. and Vi S.).
  • Sally Brown and David R. Brown, A Biography of Mrs. Marty Mann. Hazelden, 2001. Chapter 13 and its note 5 (Bill W. as her sponsor, and sponsors of the same gender), chapter 15 (Felicia G. and Priscilla P.) and chapter 19 (Ruth O.). It quotes Felicia G.’s story “Stars Don’t Fall” from the Big Book’s third edition (1976).
  • Questions & Answers on Sponsorship (P-15). AA World Services, revised June 2025.